trionfi: I’m just gonna erase all the baseless noise that was in this post. Original post was saying that if you live in the Orange zone, you no longer have your Fourth Amendment and can have your electronic shit searched without warrant. A 5 second Google Search gave me this: The Orange border is called the “Extended Border”. There is the “normal” border around the United States, and there is the Functional Equivalent border around every International Airport in the Interior of the United States. First, let’s focus on this Extended Border. According to the Congressional Research Service: Searches within the 100-mile extended border zone, and outside of the immediate border-stop location, must meet three criteria: a person must have recently crossed a border; an agent should know that the object of a search hasn’t changed; and that “reasonable suspicion” of a criminal activity must exist. http://news.yahoo.com/does-constitution-free-zone-really-exist-america-195813138.html The whole “Constitution-Free Zone” term was created by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) in 2008 as a way to scare people who don’t bother to look up shit (the Department of Homeland Security released a two page report [Yes I did read it] last week, which is why this shit is stirring up.) The “Warrent-less Search Border” never mentions the Extended Border. It is for the “normal” and “functional equivalent” borders. It is for Border Patrol Officers. By Law, yes, Border Patrol Officers can go through an Electronic Device without probable cause. But in their report, they still have to state a reason as to why they searched the device. If a person believes that the search was wrong, they can report it to the DoHS. In the new DoHS report, they state that they would want people to do that if they feel this was wrongly done. So in the long run, Officers still need a good reason to search your shit. So the average person living in the United States? No, you are not going to have your laptop or iPad searched, as you haven’t crossed any borders. Travellers? Maybe, if it is reasonably believed that they would find something criminal on your Electronic Devices. So, yeah, there are some problems here, but no, a man in a suit is not going to knock on your door demanding your laptop.

trionfi:

I’m just gonna erase all the baseless noise that was in this post.

Original post was saying that if you live in the Orange zone, you no longer have your Fourth Amendment and can have your electronic shit searched without warrant.

A 5 second Google Search gave me this:

The Orange border is called the “Extended Border”. There is the “normal” border around the United States, and there is the Functional Equivalent border around every International Airport in the Interior of the United States.

First, let’s focus on this Extended Border.

According to the Congressional Research Service:

Searches within the 100-mile extended border zone, and outside of the immediate border-stop location, must meet three criteria: a person must have recently crossed a border; an agent should know that the object of a search hasn’t changed; and that “reasonable suspicion” of a criminal activity must exist.


http://news.yahoo.com/does-constitution-free-zone-really-exist-america-195813138.html

The whole “Constitution-Free Zone” term was created by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) in 2008 as a way to scare people who don’t bother to look up shit (the Department of Homeland Security released a two page report [Yes I did read it] last week, which is why this shit is stirring up.)

The “Warrent-less Search Border” never mentions the Extended Border. It is for the “normal” and “functional equivalent” borders. It is for Border Patrol Officers.

By Law, yes, Border Patrol Officers can go through an Electronic Device without probable cause. But in their report, they still have to state a reason as to why they searched the device. If a person believes that the search was wrong, they can report it to the DoHS. In the new DoHS report, they state that they would want people to do that if they feel this was wrongly done. So in the long run, Officers still need a good reason to search your shit.

So the average person living in the United States? No, you are not going to have your laptop or iPad searched, as you haven’t crossed any borders. Travellers? Maybe, if it is reasonably believed that they would find something criminal on your Electronic Devices.

So, yeah, there are some problems here, but no, a man in a suit is not going to knock on your door demanding your laptop.

(Source: pantslesswrock)

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